The Chills at Will Podcast

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The Chills at Will Podcast is a celebration of the visceral beauty of literature. This beauty will be examined through close reads of phrases and lines and passages from fiction and nonfiction that thrills the reader, so much so that he wants to read again and again to replicate that thrill. Each episode will focus on a different theme, such as "The Power of Flashback," "Understatement," "Cats in the Cradle," and "Chills at Will: Origin Story."

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Episode 277 with Douglas J. Weatherford, Translator of Juan Rulfo's Pedro Páramo and The Burning Plain, and Precise Wordsmith, Thorough Researcher, and Passionate Scholar of Film, Language, and Symbol

22 minutes ago

Notes and Links to Douglas J. Weatherford’s Work

Doug was born in Salt Lake City but grew up in Statesboro, Georgia, where his father taught German at Georgia Southern University. Doug loves to read, travel, and ride bicycles and motorcycles. He graduated from BYU in 1988 (BA Spanish) and the Pennsylvania State University in 1997 (PhD Latin American Literature). He has been a professor at BYU since 1995. Doug’s research and teaching emphases include Latin American literature and film, representations of the period of Discovery and Conquest, and Mexico at mid-Century (1920–1968, with particular focus on Rosario Castellanos and Juan Rulfo). His latest are new translations of Pedro Páramo and The Burning Plain.

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Doug's BYU Webpage

New York Times Book Review of Pedro Páramo by Valeria Luiselli

At about 2:15, Doug talks about his “journey” to becoming a professor of Latin-American Literature and Film, with regard to his early language and reading backgrounds

At about 6:00, Doug talks about his main focus in teaching over the years

At about 7:15, The two discuss linguistics classes

At about 8:30, Doug responds to Pete’s questions about texts and writers who have resonated with his students

At about 10:30, Doug reflects on Jorge Luis Borges’ work and potential for teachability

At about 11:35, The two talk about translations of Rulfo’s titles

At about 13:30, Doug gives a primer on the collection El Llano en llamas and its various translations

At about 16:40, Doug emphasizes the need to “follow in Rulfo’s footsteps” in translating the famous story “No Oyes Ladrar los Perros”

At about 20:15, Doug responds to Pete’s question about Juan Rulfo’s evolving reputation/legacy in Mexico

At about 24:15, Pete shares compliments and blurbs for Doug’s Pedro Páramo translation and Pete and Doug talk about Gabriel Garcia Marquez’s important Foreword

At about 27:20, Doug gives background on screenplays done for Rulfo’s work by Marquez and towering respect for Rulfo’s work, especially Pedro Páramo

At about 28:20, The two talk about Pedro Páramo’s movie adaptations and challenges in adapting the work with connection to older characters

At about 31:55, Pete and Doug reflect on key archetypes and connections featured in the first line of Pedro Páramo

At about 35:00, Doug gives background on his decision-making that affected his translations, including the laser-focus on the book’s first line

At about 41:00, The two discuss the book’s exposition, such as it in a chronologically-unique book, including the book’s first narrator’s role

At about 42:55, Doug discusses the connections in the book: Citizen Kane and Pedro Páramo, as well as Hernán Cortes and Pedro Páramo

At about 46:30, Doug talks about La Lllorona and Malinche and Páramo connections

At about 49:30, Doug gives background on Pedro's son, Miguel and Father Renteria and ideas of betrayal and Biblical archetypes

At about 52:35, Themes of sin and afterlife, including purgatory, are discussed, as Doug gives background on Rulfo’s “conflicted” views regarding Catholicism

At about 55:30, Doug goes into greater depth about the links between Citizen Kane and Pedro Páramo

At about 59:45, Doug responds to Pete’s question about

At about 1:02:00, Doug responds to Pete’s question about Rulfo’s treatment of Mexican “Indians”

At about 1:04:20, Hope and misogyny as a theme in the novel are discussed, and Doug discusses the 2024 Rodrigo Prieto Pedro Páramo film

At about 1:09:40, Doug “puts a spin” on the novel’s ending

At about 1:15:45, Doug gives book buying information for his translations of Rulfo’s work

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Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. My conversation with Episode 270 guest Jason De León is up on the website this week. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

Check out the page that describes the benefits of a Patreon membership, including cool swag and bonus episodes. Thanks in advance for supporting Pete’s one-man show, his DIY podcast and his extensive reading, research, editing, and promoting to keep this independent podcast pumping out high-quality content!

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

The intro song for The Chills at Will Podcast is “Wind Down” (Instrumental Version), and the other song played on this episode was “Hoops” (Instrumental)” by Matt Weidauer, and both songs are used through ArchesAudio.com.

Please tune in for Episode 278 with Kevin Nguyen, features editor at The Verge, previous senior editor at GQ. He has written for New York Magazine, The New York Times, The Paris Review and elsewhere, and is the author of New Waves and the novel Mỹ Documents, which has April 8, the same day the episode airs, as its Pub Day.

Tuesday Mar 18, 2025

Episode 276 with Donna Minkowitz, Author of Donnaville and Master Worldbuilder and Detail-Oriented Painter of Vivid Scenes and Characters

Tuesday Mar 18, 2025

Notes and Links to Donna Minkowitz’s Work

Donna Minkowitz is a writer of fiction and memoir who author Mary Gaitskill has celebrated as “original, energetic, witty, and meaty.” Andrew Solomon dubbed her “utterly entrancing… a writer with breathtakingly fluent language.” She is also the author of the fantasy-influenced memoir Growing Up Golem and the memoir Ferocious Romance, about being an openly lesbian reporter covering the Christian right undercover. Growing Up Golem was a finalist for both a Lambda Literary Award and for the Publishing Triangle’s Judy Grahn Nonfiction Award, and Ferocious Romance won a Lambda Literary Award. Donna, a former columnist for the Village Voice and The Advocate, has also written for the New York Times Book Review, The Nation, Salon, Slate, and New York magazine.

DONNAVILLE, her first novel and third book, was recently published by Indolent Books.

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Donna's Website

Book Review for Donnaville from Kirkus Reviews

At about 2:05, Donna provides background on her formative reading and writing years

At about 3:40, Pete and Donna talk about the benefits of reading works a bit too old for them

At about 5:05, Donna responds to Pete’s questions about the Torah and how its stories affected her writing

At about 6:30, Donna talks about formative and transformative writers, including poets and Greek mythology

At about 8:05, Donna responds to Pete’s questions about representation in discussing the significance of Sappho’s work

At about 10:25, Donna discusses the nuances of the word “queer” and generational usages

At about 14:00, Pete and Donna stan Honor Thy Father by Gay Talese, which receives a shout out in Donnaville

At about 17:20, Donna expands on writers who inspired her as a high school and college student; she talks about the complicated legacy and work of Tolkien

At about 21:30, Pete asks Donna and how the detail shown in Donnaville connects to her work as an esteemed journalist

At about 23:40, Donna talks about her undercover journalism work, including a memorable white nationalism conference and purported former Olympic hopeful

At about 26:40, Donna talks about the book’s opening scene and connections to her real life, with regard to therapy and therapists and ways of finding growth

At about 31:55, Pete describes the book’s exposition and compliments Donna’s

At about 34:05, Donna cites Denise Levertov’s and Delmore Schwartz’s (“Narcissus”) work as inspiration for her book featuring a city inside her mind; Pete cites another wonderful Schwartz text, “In Dreams Begin Responsibilities”

At about 36:40, Donna talks about Foucault and resistance in connection to an evocative line from her book

At about 37:20, Donna expands upon how there are two characters in the book who are not pieces of her, and she explains the significance of Harlequin in the book

At about 41:45, Donna responds to Pete’s question about the lying nature of Harlequin

At about 44:15, Donna and Pete explore ideas of connection and confusion between abusers and their young victims

At about 47:50, Donna talks about early “action” that Donna in the book is urged to take

At about 49:40, Pete highlights a beautiful quote regarding the “sacred divine” and Donna talks about expectations of hurt

At about 50:30, The two discuss the contradictions of the book’s jailer, and Donna further discusses ideas of shame

At about 53:25, Donna expands on how she sees parts of her life and family in certain characters in the book

At about 54:40, Pete shouts out a story, William Carlos Willams’ “The Use of Force,” that explores ideas of sadism in similar ways as Donnaville

At about 55:50, Donna muses over ideas of self-care, emotional regulation, and structure in our lives featured in the book

At about 57:35, Pete gives details about the book’s main focus, and Donna responds to his observations about Donnaville as “a happily queer book” as she also expands upon pleasures found in the book

At about 1:02:05, Pete cites traumas alluded to in the book and a deep quote about traumas emerging in people’s lives

At about 1:04:10, Donna ponders Pete’s question about a nurturing group of older people and connects the book to Joseph Campbell’s “Hero's Journey”

At about 1:07:30, Pete and Donna discuss a possible animated movie based on the book and possible voice actors

At about 1:09:25, Donna shouts out as bookstores to buy her book, such as The Bureau of General Services, Queer Division, Stanza Books and Binnacle Books

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 255 guest Chris Knapp is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 277 with Jahmal Mayfield, who writes gritty crime novels that touch on large social issues. His stellar SMOKE KINGS was inspired by Kimberly Jones’ passionate viral video, “How can we win?”

The episode airs on March 25.

Monday Mar 10, 2025

Episode 275 with Deborah Jackson-Taffa, Author of National Book Award Finalist Whiskey Tender, and Chronicler and Reflective Craftswoman of Endearing and Enduring and Resonant Stories

Monday Mar 10, 2025

Notes and Links to Deborah Taffa-Jackson’s Work

Deborah Jackson Taffa is a citizen of the (Quatzahn) Quechan (Yuma) Nation and Laguna Pueblo. She earned her MFA at the Nonfiction Writing Program at the University of Iowa and is the Director of the MFA in Creative Writing at the Institute of American Indian Arts in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Named Top 10 Book of the Year by Atlantic Magazine, and Top 10 Nonfiction Book by Time Magazine.

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Deborah's Website

Book Review for Whiskey Tender from Washington Post

At about 1:30, Deborah reflects on and expands on her experience in being a finalist for The National Book Award

At about 5:30, Pete shares some laudatory feedback for her memoir and Deborah shouts out Birchbark Books, Collected Works, Left Bank Books, as some great places to buy her book

At about 7:30, Deborah shares some wonderful invitations she’s received to discuss her book and her art

At about 9:05, Deborah explains how she “reverse-engineered” the book with regard to research and personal stories

At about 10:20, Deborah responds to Pete’s questions about her early reading and language life and how her formal and informal education was affected by her family’s histories

At about 15:45, Deborah gives background on her “autodidactic,” transformative learning, study, reading, and traveling that helped her

At about 19:00, Deborah traces the throughlines of colonization in seemingly-disparate groups

At about 22:20, Deborah discusses the significance of her epigraph on “ceremony”

At about 26:25, Billy Ray Belcourt is cited as Pete and Deborah talk about the speculative and aspirational writing

At about 27:55, Pete and Deborah reflect on ideas of indigenous invisibility as evidenced in a memorable scene from Whiskey Tender

At about 29:40, Deborah cites a “shocking” study n her college textbook that speaks to how many Americans view Native American women, and how it provided fodder and stimulus for her memoir

At about 31:25, the two discuss a flashback scene that begins the book and the idea of “mirages” as discussed in the opening scene

At about 35:20, Pete asks Deborah to expand upon a resonant line from her book about meaningful childhood experiences

At about 37:35, Deborah talks about historical silences in her family and in others

At about 39:40, Deborah talks about the intensive historical research done in the last year before the book was published

At about 40:55, The two discuss similarities regarding generation gaps in indigenous groups and immigrant and traditionally-marginalized groups

At about 42:40, Deborah talks about the lore of Sarah Winnemucca in her family and “her savvi[ness] and revisionist history

At about 46:25, Pete and Deborah talk about the “flattening” of American Indian stories and pivotal government treaties and reneging on deals by the American government

At about 48:00, Pete and Deborah reflect on contemporary connections to previous American policies

At about 50:20, The two discuss a representative story about “lateral violence” and belonging and ostracism that affected Deborah at a young age

At about 53:00, Counternarratives to myths about indigenous peoples and movement are discussed

At about 57:20,

At about 59:40, Pete is highly complimentary of Deborah’s writing about her grandmother’s genuine and wonderful nature, and Deborah expands on her grandmother’s cancer diagnosis and outlook and lasting influence

At about 1:02:30, Pete highlights a wonderful closing scene about time and place and home

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 255 guest Chris Knapp is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 276 with Donna Minkowitz, a writer of fantasy, memoir, and journalism lauded by Lilith Magazine for her “fierce imagination and compelling prose.” Her first book, Ferocious Romance, won a Lambda Literary Award for Best Book On Religion/Spirituality, and her most recent memoir was Growing Up Golem, a finalist for both a Lambda Literary Award and Judy Grahn Nonfiction Award. She is also the author of the novel DONNAVILLE, published in 2024.

The episode airs on March 18.

Wednesday Mar 05, 2025

Episode 274 with Annell López, Author of the Short Story Collection, I'll Give You a Reason, and Skilled Craftswoman of Resonant, Layered Characters, Subtle Twists, and the Universal and Hyperspecific

Wednesday Mar 05, 2025

Notes and Links to Annell Lopez’s Work

Annell López is the winner of the Louise Meriwether First Book Prize and the author of the short story collection I’LL GIVE YOU A REASON from the Feminist Press. A Peter Taylor Fellow at the Kenyon Review Writers Workshops, her work has also received support from Tin House and has appeared in Guernica, American Short Fiction, Michigan Quarterly Review, Brooklyn Rail, The Common, Refinery29 and elsewhere. López received her MFA from the University of New Orleans. She is working on a novel.

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Annell Lopez's Instagram

For The Rumpus: “There’s Always a Little Light, a Glimmer of Hope: A Conversation with Annell López”

At about 2:05, Annell talks about her early relationship with bilingualism,

At about 4:50, Annell shouts ut the “great place” that is Newark, NJ, and recounts early memories after her immigration

At about 6:25, Annell talks about how learning English helped her develop her already burgeoning writing ability

At about 8:25, Annell highlights Garcia Marquez’s work in Spanish

At about 9:35, Annell lists books and writers that were formative and transformative for her

At about 13:25, Deesha Philyaw, Carlos Maurice Ruffin, Danielle Evans, and Chris Stuck, are referenced as inspiring contemporary writers

At about 14:40, Annell talks about seeds for her short story collection and its makeup

At about 16:10, the two discuss the collection’s first story and the title character’s anxiety around possible deportation

At about 19:05, Annell reflects on the dynamics of older sibling and young sibling and mother-daughter relationships, as evidenced in the “Dark Vader”

At about 20:30, Annell responds to Pete’s questions about colorism as shown in some of her stories

At about 22:35, from “Dark Vader,” a “problematic” Mateo is discussed, along with power dynamics, and Vanessa’s reluctance to pass her GED

At about 27:00, Annell talks about a character’s unnamed bipolar condition, and his son’s motivations in being angry towards his father

At about 30:30, Pete asks about online news madness as referenced in the story collection

At about 32:35, Pete links two stories and the two talk about gentrification and its treatment in the collection, and Pete is complimentary of Annell’s plot structure and what is “left unsaid”

At about 34:35, “Love gone stale” as a theme of the book is lauded and discussed

At about 37:00, Grief and depression and the bird and beautiful “Bear Hunting Season” are discussed

At about 41:30, Annell talks about how her teaching did and did not inform the treatment of teachers in her collection

At about 44:30, Trauma in its many forms in the collection is discussed

At about 45:45, The two explore the title story and its focus on emotional response

At about 47:50, Pete highlights a story that focuses on objectification and racism and Annell’s apt second-person usage and diction; she focuses on the story’s universality and realism

At about 50:05, “The Other Carmen” is explored, including ideas of body shaming, body positivity

At about 52:40, Annell explains some “Easter eggs” and “crossover characters” and Pete is complimentary of story endings

At about 53:40, Pete asks Annell about the importance of staged photoshoots in a story in the collection

At about 55:55, Annell talks about the importance of titles after Pete cites her prowess with same

At about 57:45, Pete fanboys about the collection’s last story

At about 59:30, Annell responds to Pete’s question about significance of the collection

At about 1:00:45, Annell gives social media and other contact info

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. His latest conversation, with Episode 265 guest Carvell Wallace, is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 275 with Deborah Jackson-Taffa, whose 2024 memoir Whiskey Tender was a finalist for the 2024 National Book Award for Nonfiction; earned a MFA in nonfiction writing from the Univ of IA; director of the MFA creative writing program at the Institute of American Indian Arts in Santa Fe, NM

The episode airs on March 11.

Monday Feb 24, 2025

Episode 273 with Raúl Pérez, Author of The Souls of White Jokes: How Racist Humor Fuels White Supremacy, and Master Connector of Racist Humor and Systems of White Supremacy in the United States

Monday Feb 24, 2025

Notes and Links to Raúl Perez’s Work

Raul Pérez is an Associate Professor of Sociology at University of La Verne. He is also the author of The Souls of White Jokes: How Racist Humor Fuels White Supremacy (Stanford University Press, 2022).

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Raul Perez's University of LaVerne Website

Book Review from Oxford Review: The Souls of White Jokes

At about 1:50, Raúl talks about his early language and reading journeys

At about 5:15, Raúl notes the greatness and importance and multi-generational pull of LAUSD’s coffee cake for the Perez family

At about 6:40, Raúl details his high school academic journey and some early inspiring reads-shout out, Mr. Taylor!

At about 9:05, Raúl talks about how college social scene readings and class discussions and formative and transformative professors changed his mindset

At about 12:45, Raúl shouts out Netflix’s Mo as a really “engaging…springboard for discussion”

At about 16:45, Raúl responds to Pete’s questions about how humor and its study made its way into his reading and scholarship

At about 23:00, Raúl talks about seeds for his writing about humor and race and graduate school goals

At about 24:45, Raúl responds to Pete’s question about being able to watch comedy without analyzing it

At about 25:50, Raúl recounts stories of his experience taking an ethnography class of humor/standup comedy, including the ways in which race and racism affects standup comedy

At about 27:50, Pete asks Raúl what he might do if he had a few minutes to do standup, and Raúl talks about racialized humor foisted upon him and others in a previous standup class

At about 32:00, Raúl reflects on comedians who successfully put in the work and “exercis[e] the funny bone” and “find the funny in everything”

At about 33:50, The two reflect on Dave Chappelle’s work and he and Bill Burr and others and how they deal with difficult/traumatic “material”

At about 38:00, Raúl and Pete talk about terminology n hs book and Raúl expands on his choice to avoid using the infamous hateful epithet

At about 40:50, Raúl talks about racism “behind-the-scenes” among police officers, sometimes with officers of color targeting Black officers

At about 42:15, Raúl talks about Latinos and Mexicans and conversations about anti-Blackness and Afro-Latinos role in these discussions

At about 44:35, Raúl talks about “cancelled” humor and skits on Saturday Night Live, including a legendary skit with Richard Pryor and Chevy Chase, and a pendulum effect with racial and racist humor

At about 49:00, Raúl segues into talking about Tom Metzger and WAR’s racist cartoons and Raúl’s book censoring racist language

At about 50:40, Pete outlines the book’s chapter titles and asks Raúl about licensing of racist cartoons used in his book; Raúl expands on Metzger’s and others usage

At about 54:40, Raúl details a controversial NY Post cartoon that depicted President Barack Obama

At about 56:15, Raúl responds to Pete’s question about connections between the racist humor towards President Obama and “whitelash” from recent years to the early years of the United States as a country, with President Trump a natural consequence

At about 1:04:25, Pete notes Raúl’s coined term of “amused contempt” and states his thesis of racist humor and its “social power”

At about 1:05:30, Raúl discusses the significance of the book’s title and connections to W.E. DuBois’ famous The Souls of White Folk

At about 1:10:10, Raúl reflects on the significance of minstrel and its racist legacy and ideas of shared humor at the “expensive of the racialized group”

At about 1:12:20, Pete recounts the book’s opening with the story of Cleon Brown and compliments Raúl’s tracing such a long history with the book

At about 1:15:00, Raúl talks about how sees Trump’s upcoming presidency and its connections to racist “humor” and how he is an avatar for those who have tired of “wokeism”

At about 1:17:00, Raúl expands on Trump 2.0 and those like Elon Musk who use meme culture and racist/”anti-PC” culture to ”weaponize humor”

At about 1:21:10, Raúl gives background on the study of “disparagement humor” and its effects, as studied by Thomas E. Ford

At about 1:24:00, Raúl talks about future writing subjects, including the “weaponization of humor in warfare,” like with the IDF in Gaza

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 265 guest Carvell Wallace is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

Pete has added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 274 with Annell López, winner of Louise Meriwether First Book Prize and the author of the short story collection I’LL GIVE YOU A REASON. She is a Peter Taylor Fellow at Kenyon Review Writers Workshops, and her work has appeared in American Short Fiction, Michigan Quarterly Review, and Refinery29, among others.

The episode airs on March 4.

Wednesday Feb 19, 2025

Episode 272 with Lamya H., Author of Hijab Butch Blues and Reflective, Thoughtful, and Masterful Crafter of the Universal and Ultra-Specific

Wednesday Feb 19, 2025

Notes and Links to Lamya H’s Work

Lamya H (she/they) is a queer Muslim writer and organizer living in New York City. Their memoir HIJAB BUTCH BLUES (February, 2023 from Dial Press/Penguin Randomhouse) won the Brooklyn Public Library Book Prize and a Stonewall Non-fiction Book Award, and was a finalist for Lambda Literary and Publishing Triangle Awards. Lamya’s work has appeared in Los Angeles Review of Books, Salon, Autostraddle, Vice, and others. She has received fellowships from Lambda Literary and Queer|Arts.

Lamya’s organizing work centers around creating spaces for LGBTQ+ Muslims, fighting Islamophobia, Palestine and prison abolition. In her free time, she eats lots of desserts baked by her partner, plays board games with whoever she can corral, and works on her goal of traveling to every subway stop in the city. She has never run a marathon.

Find her on Twitter and IG: @lamyaisangry

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Lamya H's Website

Book Review for Hijab Butch Blues from NPR

At about 2:20: Lamya shouts out Dominion as a top-tier board game and talks about flickering hopes of running a marathon

At about 5:35, Lamya talks about reading and writing and speaking in multiple languages growing up, as well as reading a lot of colonial texts from the British Empire

At about 7:30, Lamya talks about beijing “flabbergasted” by the great White Teeth at age 15

At about 9:30, Lamya uses the evocative image of “fish not understanding that they’re in water” in responding to Pete’s questions about how she recognized representation and colonial tropes in lit

At about 11:10, Lamya cites formative and transformative texts and authors in her adolescent year

At about 13:55, Lamya discusses early sparks for activism through a friend’s introduction of Audre Lorde, Angela Davis, and more

At about 15:15, Lamya responds to Pete’s questions about her current reading, including her love for Huda F’s work

At about 18:45, Lamya responds to Pete’s questions about her usage of “queer” and the titular “butch”

At about 22:30, The two discuss a meaningful Quranic verse that starts off the book-Lamya explains ideas of “faith in flux”

At about 25:00, Lamya gives background on surahs and a significant part of her book discussing Maryam’s life and trials

At about 26:45, Lamya discusses boredom in the high school years and how she felt connections to Maryam

At about 29:45, Lamya responds to Pete’s questions about feeling like life “is out of your control” as a teenager/high schooler

At about 30:45, Lamya explains feelings of internalizing queerness upon experiencing a crush at age 14

At about 34:50, Lamya describes the importance of Quranic verses involving Maryam and “intentionality” and taqwa

At about 38:00, Lamya responds to Pete’s questions about the “Arab hierarchy” that she experienced as a kid, and the ways in which she and her family were targets of racism

At about 41:40, Lamya details many meanings of “jinn” and describes its usage in her memoir

At about 43:40, Lamya describes a friend “jumpstarting” a repudiation of internalized racism

At about 45:15, Lamya gives background on Allah and ideas of “transcending” gender

At about 49:00, The two discuss “rigid gender roles” as featured in the memoir, as well as connections to the Biblical Adam

At about 50:00, Lamya outlines a offbeat “outing” experience

At about 51:30, Pete describe Musa’s connections to Lamya’s “coming out slowly process” and asks Lamya to comment-she talks about “reframing the negative”

At about 53:45, Lamya cites “inviting in” as a way of reframing the “coming out” trope

At about 55:35, Pete shouts out Christina Cooke’s quote of queerness as “divine”

At about 56:25, The two discuss empathetic and sensitive friends

At about 57:10, The Prophet Muhammed and connections to fealty and openness of fath and individuality are discussed

At about 59:50, The two discuss “being “comfortable” in one's own skin and finding community

At about 1:00:45, Lamya responds to Pete’s questions about Asiya and those who encourage and perpetuate victimizers, including about ideas of citizenship in a country that has so often victimized

At about 1:03:40, Pete shouts out great “plot” in the book and a dizzying scene painted so well by Lamya

At about 1:05:30: Lamya talks about hopes that her book and story can be universal while it is quite specific

At about 1:07:00, Lamya encourages people to “buy local”

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I am very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, my conversation with Episode 265 guest Carvell Wallace is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

Check out the page that describes the benefits of a Patreon membership, including cool swag and bonus episodes. Thanks in advance for supporting my one-man show, my DIY podcast and my extensive reading, research, editing, and promoting to keep this independent podcast pumping out high-quality content!

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of mine, a DIY operation, and I’d love for your help in promoting what I’m convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 273 with Raúl Perez. He is an Associate Professor of Sociology at University of La Verne and the author of The Souls of White Jokes: How Racist Humor Fuels White Supremacy. His work has been published in American Behavioral Scientist, Discourse and Society, Ethnicities, and Sociological Perspectives, and featured in Time, The Grio, Latino Rebels, and Zócalo Public Square.

The episode airs on February 25.

Monday Feb 10, 2025

Episode 271 with Alejandro Heredia, Author of Loca, Crafter of Beautiful, Indelible Images, and Resonant Characters and Scenes

Monday Feb 10, 2025

Notes and Links to Alejandro Heredia’s Work

Alejandro Heredia is a queer Afro-Dominican writer from The Bronx. His debut novel LOCA is out today (February 11) from Simon and Schuster. He has received fellowships from Lambda Literary, VONA, the Dominican Studies Institute, Kenyon Review, and Trinity College. In 2019, he was selected by Myriam Gurba as the winner of the Gold Line Press Fiction Chapbook Contest. His chapbook of short stories, You’re the Only Friend I Need (2021), explores themes of queer transnationalism, friendship, and (un)belonging in the African Diaspora. Heredia’s work has been featured in Teen Vogue, Lambda Literary Review, The Offing, and elsewhere. He received an MFA in fiction from Hunter College.

Heredia currently serves as Black Mountain Institute’s Shearing Fellow at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

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Book Review for Loca

At about 2:40, Alejandro shares his feelings as the book’s Pub Day approaches, as well as feedback that he hasn’t gotten on the novel

At about 4:40, Alejandro talks about his bilingualism, growing up in The Bronx and The Dominican Republic, and what led him towards writing

At about 7:10, Alejandro talks about how being bilingual helps him to become a better writer/thinker and how his Spanglish has developed

At about 9:25, Alejandro gives some background on a specific Dominican word

At about 10:25, Alejandro responds to Pete’s questions about what he was reading that served as foundational for him and he expands upon “writing across difference”

At about 13:10, Alejandro cites contemporary fiction that inspires and challenges, including Gina Chung’s work

At about 14:10, Alejandro outlines ideas of how he sees the use of the word “queer”

At about 16:00, Alejandro expands upon seeds and stimulating ideas for his book, especially wth regard to the “Author’s Note”

At about 19:10, Alejandro expands on his Author’s Note reference to fiction’s “capaciousness” and how fiction’s constructs helped him write about loss and grief in Loca

At about 21:10, Alejandro talks about the significance of his two epigraphs and ideas of “home” and friendship

At about 23:40, Pete and Alejandro talks about the book’s exposition and an early inciting incident

At about 24:30, Pete asks Alejandro about main character Charo’s domesticity and her visceral negative reaction

At about 26:05, The two discuss ideas of community and Y2K and the importance of the “queer space” at The Shade Room in a Dominican and Puerto Rican community

At about 28:20, Alejandro talks about intersectionality and his qualms about its usage in early reviews of the novel

At about 30:55, Pete and Alejandro discuss Vance and Sal’s first meeting and budding relationship and ideas of “identity politics and language”

At about 32:25, The two discuss important familial and friend characters

At about 33:55, Yadiel is discussed as a proud queer character and Aljandrro expands upon a moment in which Sal and Yadiel

At about 36:15, Alejandro responds to Pete’s questions about a “moment in time” and a “utpian moment,” and expands upon the good and bad of life “at the margins”

At about 39:35, Alejandro replies to Pete’s question about the ways in which he deals wth sexual abuse and its effects and the abuse as “foundational” and “inform[ing]” Sal’s adolescence and beyond

At about 42:45, Vance and his likability and Ren are described

At about 43:55, Anacaona and her history are discussed in connection to an important flashback in the book

At about 46:00, Alejandro expands upon ideas of “erasing Blackness” that come as unintentional (?) effects of the portrayal of the Taino peoples

At about 49:15, Robert and his sympathetic nature and his usage of a homophobic slur are discussed, as Alejandro discusses the “reclaiming” of the word in the queer Dominican community

At about 50:40, Don Julio, Sal’s roommate, and his emblematic background are discussed, along with the benefits and drawbacks of “normalizing” a reclaimed word

At about 53:00, Alejandro talks about being a “writer of images” after Pete compliments one of many resonant scenes

At about 54:55, Pete and Alejandro tiptoe around any spoilers

At about 55:50, Sal and Kiko and their minor triumphs and Sal’s success as a teacher are discussed

At about 57:00, Pete wonders about Lena, an eccentric character in the book, and Alejandro talks about some ambiguities

At about 59:00, Robert and Charo’s relationship and ideas of repression, personal choice, and guilt throughout the book are discussed

At about 1:03:25, Pete and Alejandro discuss generational differences in the ways in which Sal and Vance interact and see progressive movements

At about 1:07:40, Alejandro discusses social media contact info and points listeners towards his upcoming tour dates

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with previous guest Carvell Wallace will be up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 272 with Lamya H. Lamya is a queer Muslim writer and organizer living in New York City whose 2023 memoir HIJAB BUTCH BLUES won the Brooklyn Public Library Book Prize and a Stonewall Non-fiction Book Award, and was also a finalist for Lambda Literary and Publishing Triangle Awards. Lamya’s organizing work centers around creating spaces for LGBTQ+ Muslims, fighting Islamophobia, Palestine, and prison abolition.

The episode airs on February 18.

Wednesday Feb 05, 2025

Episode 270 with Jason De León, Author of Soldiers and Kings: 2024's National Book Award for Nonfiction, and Relentless Researcher, Attuned Listener, and Master Storyteller

Wednesday Feb 05, 2025

Notes and Links to Jason De León’s Work

Jason De León is Director of the Cotsen Institute of Archaeology, Loyd E. Cotsen Endowed Chair of Archaeology, Professor of Anthropology and Chicana/o and Central American Studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.

De León is Executive Director of the Undocumented Migration Project (UMP) Inc. a 501(c)(3) research, arts, and education collective that seeks to raise awareness about migration issues globally.

He is the author of two award winning books: “The Land of Open Graves: Living and Dying on the Migrant Trail” (featuring photos by Michael Wells) and “Soldiers and Kings.” Soldiers and Kings won the 2024 National Book Award for Nonfiction. De León is 2017 MacArthur Foundation Fellow.

In addition to his scholarly pursuits, Jason is an active musician who sang and played guitar with the Long Beach based hardcore-punk-reggae band Youth in Asia in the mid to late 1990’s and the Americana band The Wilcox Hotel based out of State College, PA between 2005 and 2008. He currently plays bass in The War Pigs and is involved in various musical projects including periodic reunions with The Wilcox Hotel.

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Jason Website

Jason’s National Book Award Receipt: Video

Book Review: Soldiers and Kings New York Times Review

Jason on CBS Sunday Morning: Video

At about 2:50, Jason helps Pete get over some Lakers/Kings traumas

At about 6:15, Jason talks about the experience of winning the National Book Award

At about 8:45, Jason shouts out indie bookstores like Literati, Village Well, Powell’s as places to buy his book

At about 10:05, Jason gives background on his early relationship with language and story, and how this reading was shaped by his childhood

At about 11:10, Jason talks about ups and downs of reading and writing for joy, and how “story” has been an interest

At about 13:20, Jason talks about how multilingualism was part of his childhood and the ways in which speaking foreign languages

At about 14:50, Jason responds to Pete’s question about writers who challenge and inspire him, including Ernest Gaines, Lus Alberto Urrea, Willie Vaultin, and Jesmyn Ward

At about 17:00, Jason cites songwriters like John Prine, Jason Isbell, and Bruce Springsteen as inspirational

At about 19:20, Jason gives background on the protocol and timing and embedding done in his research for Soldiers and Kings

At about 20:30, Pete is highly complimentary of Jason’s balance of first person and third person and his skilled objectivity; Jason responds to Pete’s questions about any “vertigo” that came with intense fieldwork and academia and family life

At about 24:15, Jason speaks to the significance of the book’s epigraph from Jason Isbell

At about 27:50, Jason discusses the difference between “smuggling” and “trafficking” and their implications in the book and beyond

At about 29:15, Jason and Pete reflect on the titles for the people represented on the book, and Jason responds to Pete’s question about how he wrote to avoid generalization

At about 32:30, Jason recounts a story from his first book that is emblematic of fully-drawn characters

At about 34:30, Pete asks about ethical concerns in research for the book

At about 36:05, Jason outlines how childhood experiences and exposure to violence may have helped him connect more with the main characters of the book

At about 38:50, Jason reflects on how he proved himself trustworthy in his research and how and why the characters are “good judges of characters”

At about 41:00, The two discuss Honduras and its importance in migration in the last decade or so, as well as how its emblematic of the global and natural forces

At about 45:45, the two reflect on youth and its importance in the book and how privilege, or lack thereof, connect to ideas of redemption and traumas

At about 49:35, Pete cites a telling quote from Father Greg Boyle in reference to the high number of adverse experiences that so many migrants have had to carry; Jason discusses ideas of hope

At about 52:15, Pete highlights a resonant poem by Warsan Shire that leads Jason to talk about the “sharks” that put people on the migrant route

At about 55:25, Jason responds to Pete’s question about the infamous “La Bestia”

At about 57:20, Jason explains the term “clavo” and its implications to “stateless” people

At about 58:55, Pete notes that the book deals so successfully with

At about 1:01:00, “The Future Belongs to Those Who Dream,” a chapter title, and its implications for optimism and hope is discussed

At about 1:04:55, Pete cites the book’s wondrous last page, as well as the book’s long future “shelf life”

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 264 guest Maggie Sheffer is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the classic Gabriel Garcia Marquez short story, “The Handsomest Drowned Man in the World.”

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of mine, a DIY operation, and I’d love for your help in promoting what I’m convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 271 with Alejandro Heredia, a queer Afro-Dominican writer from The Bronx and winner of the Gold Line Press Fiction Chapbook Contest. His writing has been featured in Teen Vogue, Lambda Literary Review, and elsewhere; His resonant debut novel LOCA has its Pub Day on Feb 11, the day on which the episode airs.

Tuesday Jan 21, 2025

Episode 269 with David Ebenbach: Author of Possible Happiness, Multitalented with Genre, and Thoughtful, Generative Writer of Relatable, Flawed, and Sympathetic Characters

Tuesday Jan 21, 2025

Notes and Links to David Ebenbach’s Work

David Ebenbach writes. He’s been writing ever since he was a kid, when he kept his whole family awake by banging away on an enormous manual typewriter, and he’s never wanted to stop.

In fact, David’s now the author of ten books of fiction, poetry, and non-fiction, and his work has picked up awards along the way: the Drue Heinz Literature Prize, the Juniper Prize, the Patricia Bibby Award, and more.

Born and raised in the great city of Philadelphia, these days David does most of his writing in Washington, DC, where he lives with his family—because he uses a laptop now, he doesn’t keep them awake with his typing—and where he works at Georgetown University, promoting inclusive, student-centered teaching at the Center for New Designs in Learning and Scholarship, and teaching creative writing and literature at the Center for Jewish Civilization and creativity through the Master’s in Learning, Design, and Technology Program.

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David Ebenbach’s Website

Book Review: LitPick about Possible Happiness

At about 2:15, David talks about the cool cover design for Possible Happiness

At about 3:00, David discusses a recent reading in which his students were able to hear/see his work

At about 4:00, David highlights wonderful contributions from Carol Nehez, his inspirational high school teacher

At about 5:55, David details pivotal reading and writers from his adolescence

At about 7:30, Pete and David discuss connections between his book and West Philly’s own Will Smith

At about 8:15, David responds to Pete’s questions about Philadelphia’s deep writing tradition and pivotal events in 1980s Philadelphia; he cites John Wideman and Mat Johnson

At about 11:00, David cites Ted Chang, Charles Yu as a few contemporary writers he enjoys

At about 12:25, David explains the webs involved with his books and genre and publishing

At about 13:55, David speaks about teaching informs his writing and vice versa-featuring shouts out to Asha Thanki and Kate Brody

At about 16:15, David lists some favorite texts of his classmates, including work by Jewish writers from the Global South, like Esther David and others like Nathan Englander and Robert Levy-Samuels

At about 18:40, David gives out information about buying Possible Happiness and shares how he finds joy on social media-specifically Facebook

At about 21:00, David responds to Pete’s questions about inhabiting the persona/headspace of the teens represented in Possible Happiness

At about 23:55, David gives background on Jacob, the protagonist’s, mindset and book’s exposition

At about 27:00, Pete and David discuss Jacob’s “inertia” and how depression and how the book’s common phrase of “howling like a coyote” relate

At about 28:15, David talks about the term “depression” and both capacious and maybe “limiting”

At about 29:10, David and Pete discuss Jacob’s mother’s living with depression and

At about 30:20, David reflects on the significance of a literal collective howl in the book

At about 31:55, Pete compliments David’s usage of a “moment in time,” and David cites Raymond Carver’s “Cathedral” and Miranda July’s work as examples of authors manipulating time

At about 34:40, Pete has a bone to pick over Full House’s treatment in the novel!

At about 35:10, The two discuss the awesome (in the truest sense of the word) pacing in Tobas Wolff’s “Bullet in the Brain”

At about 36:10, the machinations of the social groups at the book’s high school are discussed, as well as the “quaint” ways of home phones pre-cell phones

At about 37:55, Pete thanks David for dropping info on Philadelphia’s metro

At about 39:00, David discusses the ways in which clubs that accepted people under 21 and the culture that brought Jacob ways to release anger/angst

At about 40:00, The two discuss the pop culture references from the late 80s/early 90s featured in the book

At about 41:30, Pete details information about Jacob’s happy days and days dealing with depression and connections to his social life

At about 42:10, The religiosity of Jacob’s family and his uncle’s family are discussed, and David reflects on the ways that Jacob’s Judaism is represented

At about 44:15, The two discuss the real-life parallels between identity and race and class in the book

At about 47:00, Jacob’s trip to Chicago to meet his father and ideas of neglecting to talk about depression are discussed

At about 49:20, David responds to Pete’s question about the source(s) of Jacob’s resentment towards his father

At about 50:30, Pete compliments the subtle and nuanced ways in which David writes about depression and teen life

At about 51:35, David cites some benefits of writing about the pre-cell phone days

At about 53:00, David gives some hints about his exciting upcoming projects

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 264 guest Maggie Sheffer is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 270 with Lamya H. Lamya is a queer Muslim writer and organizer living in New York City whose 2023 memoir HIJAB BUTCH BLUES won the Brooklyn Public Library Book Prize and a Stonewall Non-fiction Book Award, and was also a finalist for Lambda Literary and Publishing Triangle Awards. Lamya’s organizing work centers around creating spaces for LGBTQ+ Muslims, fighting Islamophobia, Palestine, and prison abolition.

The episode airs on February 4.

Monday Jan 06, 2025

Episode 268 with Dan Gutman: Writer of Fun, Funny, Challenging, Educational, Enriching, Page-turners in Multiple Genres and for Motivating Reluctant and Voracious Readers

Monday Jan 06, 2025

Notes and Links to Dan Gutman’s Work

New York Times best-selling and award-winning author Dan Gutman has written more than 190 books for readers from kindergarten through middle school. Dan’s My Weird School series includes 100+ titles, and has sold more than 35 million copies globally over the past 20 years. Dan also is the author of the best-selling Genius Files series, the Baseball Card Adventure series, and many more.

Dan’s books have been named Junior Library Guild Selections and Bank Street College’s Best Children’s Books of the Year, and have been awarded numerous state book awards, including: The California Young Reader Medal, the Massachusetts Children’s Book Award, and the Iowa Children’s Choice Award, among others.

When he’s not writing books, Dan loves to ride his bike, play pickleball, throw Frisbees, and explore New York City where he lives with his wife Nina. To find out more, follow Dan on Facebook, BlueSky, and Instagram.

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Book Review: The Genius Files

At about 0:45, Audrey nails the biographical reading of Dan Gutman’s info

At about 2:25, Dan responds to Pete asking if “it gets old” after writing 190+ books

At about 3:15, Pete talks about the baseball bug hitting the family

At about 3:40, Audrey gives background on the family’s connection with Satchel Paige, and Chris gives backstory involving Shoeless Joe Jackson

At about 5:45, Dan expands on the legend of Shoeless Joe and talks about the popularity of baseball with young people

At about 6:40, Dan and the Riehls discuss the famous Honus Wagner baseball card and some facts about him, the star of one of Dan’s books

At about 8:50, Dan responds to Audrey’s question about his inspirations for the baseball series through giving background on his writing for kids and connecting to baseball

At about 11:10, Dan traces his journey in initially getting his work published

At about 13:20, Chris recommends a baseball player for Dan’s new book

At about 13:50, Dan reflects on why he chose the baseball players he did for his books

At about 15:15, Dan replies to Audrey’s question about his own baseball career, and shares a cool Easter egg

At about 16:15, The

At about 16:40, Chris recounts two family card collecting stories similar to The Sandlot-the second dealing with a Michael Jordan rookie card

At about 19:10, Dan discusses the research needed for his writing, and how he balances fantasy/fiction with nonfiction

At about 21:10, Pete shares his experience reading about larger cultural events and historical events through sports books like those about Jackie Robisnon

At about 22:35, Dan shares his experiences in writing about Jackie Robinson and Joe DiMaggio

At about 23:35, Dan responds to Pete’s questions about books and genres that inspired his love of reading, and how reading about baseball was a huge catalyst

At about 25:50, Dan shares wonderful feedback and compliments shared by eager readers of his work and their parents and teachers

At about 27:10, Pete and Dan discuss The Genius Files series and its ethos, and Dan gives background on the series’ genesis

At about 30:25, Dan talks about writing for different ages and in different genres, and his mindset in doing so

At about 31:55, Dan responds to Pete asking about his “beta readers” and getting reading feedback

At about 33:00, Dan shouts out some favorite writers for young people

At about 34:30, Dan talks about the ways in which visual arts and photography are balanced with his words

At about 36:50, Dan reflects on what his books have in common and ideas of the “muse” as he mentions some exciting upcoming projects

At about 41:00, Dan gives contact and social media info, as well as book ordering information

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 255 guest Chris Knapp is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 269 with David Ebenbach. He is the author of ten books of fiction, poetry, and non-fiction, and his work has picked up awards along the way: the Drue Heinz Literature Prize, the Juniper Prize, the Patricia Bibby Award, and more. He works at Georgetown University, promoting inclusive, student-centered teaching at the Center for New Designs in Learning and Scholarship, and he teaches creative writing and literature at the Center for Jewish Civilization and creativity through the Master’s in Learning, Design, and Technology Program.

The episode airs on January 14.

Please go to ceasefiretoday.com, which features 10+ actions to help bring about Ceasefire in Gaza.

Wednesday Dec 25, 2024

Episode 267 with Keith O'Brien, Author of Charlie Hustle and Award-Winning Journalist Who Skillfully and Faithfully Shows and Tells Well-Rounded Stories

Wednesday Dec 25, 2024

Notes and Links to Keith O’Brien’s Work

Keith O'Brien is a New York Times bestselling author and award-winning journalist. He has written four books, been a finalist for the PEN/ESPN Award for Literary Sportswriting, been longlisted for the Andrew Carnegie Medal for Excellence in Nonfiction, and has contributed to multiple publications over the years.

O’Brien’s work has appeared in the New York Times Magazine, the Atlantic, the Washington Post, and on National Public Radio. His radio stories have aired on All Things Considered, Morning Edition, and Weekend Edition, as well as Marketplace and This American Life.

The Wall Street Journal calls his latest book, CHARLIE HUSTLE, "compulsively readable and wholly terrific." Publishers Weekly calls it "definitive and elegantly told, this is a home run," and Kirkus Reviews hails CHARLIE HUSTLE as a "masterpiece of a sports biography."

A midwesterner by birth, O'Brien grew up in Cincinnati and graduated from Northwestern University. He now lives in New Hampshire with his wife, two children, two dogs and two cats.

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Keith O'Brien's Website

New York Times Review of Charlie Hustle

At about 2:00, Pete asks Keith about the medium of radio, and Keith talks about how he loves radio and how it works different “muscles”

At about 3:40, Keith traces his early reading and writing life and his love of sports stories, Sports Illustrated, and more, including David Halberstam’s stellar work

At about 5:45, Pete and Keith fanboy over great work from The Best American Sports Writing of the Century

At about 7:05, Keith shouts out Mirin Fader and Andrew Maraniss and Jonathan Eig, among others, as writing inspirations

At about 8:55, Keith talks about how work in Japan helped to ignite his love of and skill for writing

At about 10:45 (13:50), Keith discusses how he views storytelling, showing/telling, as well as objectivity in writing, as well as expectations for readers

At about 14:50, Pete quotes a meaningful excerpt from the beginning of Charlie Hustle, and Keith expands upon how “stunned” he was by the crying and emotional responses from those talking about Pete Rose’s impact in their lives

At about 17:20, Pete alludes to the Author’s Note, and asks Keith about his childhood outlook on Pete Rose and the Reds as a native Cincinnatian

At about 21:05, Pete gives some exposition from the book and summarizes the “high point” from the Introduction

At about 22:00, Keith paints a picture of Pete Rose’s childhood growing up on the Westside of Cincinnati, and talks about “Big Pete” Rose and his legendary exploits, including a

At about 26:40, Keith explains the significance of two events in the summer of 1956 and how it shaped Pete

At about 29:15, Keith recounts an emblematic story involving Pete Rose and boxing

At about 30:45, Pete picks up on the aforementioned story and asks Keith if he sees the same mindset in Pete Rose in denying his betting later in life; Keith talks about a lack of vulnerability for Pete Rose

At about 32:45, Keith charts the importance of Pete Rose’s Uncle Buddy in jumpstarting Pete’s career

At about 37:15, Keith gives background on Pete Rose’s iconic nickname and its “mythology”

At about 39:55, The two reflect on the “juxtaposition” between those who gave Pete Rose his nickname and Pete Rose

At about 41:10, Keith talks about racism and the treatment of Black players in the Major Leagues, as well as how Pete viewed/spoke about race

At about 44:35, Keith expands on the ways in which Pete was seen as a “white, working-class hero” in the media and among fans

At about 48:15, Keith reflects on the echoing importance of Pete Rose’s collision with Ray Fosse

At about 52:15, Keith responds to Pete’s questions about how Pete Rose’s upbringing may or may not have been “seeds” for his later gambling and vice

At about 56:35, Decree Rule 21(d) and its ubiquity in baseball clubhouses is discussed

At about 57:10, Pete talks about how skillfully Keith shows Pete Rose’s impending fall at the end of Part III

At about 58:35, Keith responds to Pete’s questions about Pete Rose and whether he felt remorse over the way he treated women and his children

At about 1:00:20, Keith reflects on how the same qualities that made Pete Rose great also were his downfall

At about 1:01:40, The two discuss “credible allegations that Pete Rose had had a relationship with an underage girl in the 1970s and its impact on his baseball analyst job

At about 1:03:20, Keith responds to Pete’s questions about the importance of a homecoming in 1986 to Cincinnati

At about 1:06:50, Keith expands upon the inextricable links between Bart Giamatti and Pete Rose

At about 1:09:10, The two discuss Pete Rose’s last years and prodigious autograph signing and the ways in which his fans continued to be moved by meeting him and talking to him; Keith shares his personal experiences in being amazed by the awe of the fans he witnessed in person

At about 1:11:45, Keith reflects on the “crucial” and “poigna[nt]” ending of the book, an ending that Pete is highly complimentary of

At about 1:13:30, Keith discusses how he felt upon learning of Pete’s death and the sadness associated with Pete “being defined by his greatest mistakes”

At about 1:15:00, Pete and Keith reflect on connections between Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull and Pete Rose and the “fleeting” nature of fame

At about 1:16:15, shoutout to Ellen Adar for the audiobook

At about 1:17:10, Keith shouts out places to buy the book, including Waterstreet Books in NH, and gives social media/contact info

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 255 guest Chris Knapp is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 268 with Dax-Devlon Ross, who is the author of six books. His journalism has been featured in Time, The Guardian, The New York Times, and other national publications, and he won the National Association of Black Journalists’ Investigative Reporting Award for coverage of jury exclusion in North Carolina courts. His most recent book, Letters to My White Male Friends, is a call to action and a reflection on race.

The episode airs on December 31.

Please go to ceasefiretoday.com, which features 10+ actions to help bring about Ceasefire in Gaza.

Tuesday Dec 17, 2024

Episode 266 with Lydia Kiesling, Author of Mobility and Keen Observer and Reflection-Inducing Craftswoman of Psychological and Geopolitical Storylines with Unforgettable Characters

Tuesday Dec 17, 2024

Notes and Links to Lydia Kiesling’s Work

Lydia Kiesling is a novelist and culture writer. Her first novel, The Golden State, was a 2018 National Book Foundation “5 under 35” honoree and a finalist for the VCU Cabell First Novelist Award. Her second novel, Mobility, a national bestseller, was named a best book of 2023 by Vulture, Time, and NPR, among others. It was longlisted for the Joyce Carol Oates Prize and a finalist for the Oregon Book Award. Her essays and nonfiction have been published in outlets including The New York Times Magazine, The New Yorker online, and The Cut. Contact her at lydiakiesling@gmail.com.

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Lydia Kiesling's Website

Lydia’s Wikipedia Page

Alta Online Book Review for Mobility

At about 1:35, Lydia gives out contact information and social media information, as well as places

At about 4:10, “Return of the Mack” as an “eternal jam” is highlighted in the book

At about 5:40, Lydia talks about her reading life and how it connected to her “cusp generation” and her time as a “foreign service brat”

At about 9:50, Lydia talks about her experience reading Joyce Carol Oates, for whom an award is named that Lydia was longlisted for, and Pete compares the narrator, Bunny, and her situation in Mobility to iconic characters from “Where are you going, Where have you been?” and “In the Land of Men”

At about 11:30, Lydia recounts interesting parts of her life in boarding school and how it shaped her

At about 15:20, Lydia discusses the reading life fostered through memorable English classes in boarding school

At about 21:15, Lydia highlights the ways in which her life as a writer developed, including early work in the blog era and a great opportunity from The Millions

At about 26:00, Lydia shouts out contemporary writers who thrill and inspire, including Jenny Erpenbeck and Bruna Dantas Lobato

At about 30:55, Lyda responds to Pete’s questions about the ways in which Lydia’s history as a “diplomat brat” has affected her view of the US

At about 34:45, The two discuss seeds for the book and the importance of the book’s concise epigraph

At about 37:25, Lydia highlights The Oil and the Glory as inspiration for the book

At about 40:45, Pete lays out part of the book’s exposition and underscores the importance of the book’s first scene and use of oil prices to mark each year

At about 42:30, Lydia responds to Pete asking about the draw of Eddie and Charlie and the older men/boys

At about 43:55, Pete quotes Mario Puzo in relating to “men doing what they do when they’re away from home” and Lyda builds on it when talking about Baku and the things and people that came with oil drilling

At about 45:00, Lydia gives background of the soap opera referenced in the book as she and Pete further discuss important early characters

At about 47:40, Lydia explains the background and significance of a ring that Bunny covets that says “I respond to whoever touches me”

At about 51:00, Pete recounts some of the plot involving Bunny’s return to the US and Texas and asks Lydia about the intentions of her mentor, Phil

At about 53:20, Lydia expands on the “weird current” that comes with being a young woman/woman in a male-dominated world

At about 54:40, Pete and Lydia discuss the manner in which Bunny and so many in our society choose to look away when faced with the evils of capitalism, oil, war, etc.

At about 58:15, Lydia emphasizes the ways in which story and narrative govern so much of the way politics and business work

At about 59:40, The two discuss Bunny as a nominal liberal

At about 1:01:15, Lydia responds to Pete’s question about any reasons for optimism in response to climate change

At about 1:04:00, The idea of “geologic time” as a negative and positive is discussed with regards to the environment and oil and positive change

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 255 guest Chris Knapp is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 267 with Keith O’Brien. He is a New York Times bestselling author and award-winning journalist who has written four books, been longlisted for the Andrew Carnegie Medal for Excellence in Nonfiction, and contributed to multiple publications over the years, including the New York Times Magazine, the Atlantic, and NPR. Kirkus Reviews hails his latest, Charlie Hustle, as a "masterpiece of a sports biography."

The episode airs on December 24.

Please go to ceasefiretoday.com, which features 10+ actions to help bring about Ceasefire in Gaza.

Tuesday Dec 10, 2024

Episode 265 with Carvell Wallace, Author of Another Word for Love, a Modern Classic, and Upturner of Tropes in Beautifully and Honestly Portraying Darkness and Beauty and Love's Vagaries

Tuesday Dec 10, 2024

Notes and Links to Carvell Wallace’s Work

Carvell Wallace is a writer and podcaster who has contributed to The New Yorker, GQ, New York Times Magazine, Pitchfork, MTV News, and Al Jazeera. His debut memoir, Another Word For Love (MCD, 2024), explores his life, identity, and love through stories of family, friendship, and culture and is a 2024 Kirkus Finalist in Nonfiction. He was a 2019 Peabody Award nominee, a 2022 National Magazine Award Finalist, a 2023 winner of the Mosaic Prize in Journalism, and a 2025 UCross Fellow. He lives in Oakland.

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Carvell Wallace’s Website

New York Times Review of Another Word for Love

“Carvell Wallace on What Writing Taught Him About His Life” for LitHub

At about 2:25, Carvell describes his “active” reading youth during his youth, including interest in Edgar Allan Poe and fables and fairy tales, and how creative pursuits in college paused and started his writing life

At about 6:25, Carvell shouts out a teacher who exposed him to great literary works and “treated [him] like a real writer”

At about 7:45, Carvell talks about being an artist “getting off the academic train” and academic “tracking”

At about 9:20, Carvell and Pete discuss “math people” and implications around embracing the label or not

At about 10:40, Carvell lists Song of Solomon, Judy Blume, Grapes of Wrath as “formative” texts and writers, and he details how imitation works in his writing,

At about 14:00-Ayn Rand and Jordan Peterson talk!

At about 15:50, Carvell discusses his take on expectations of literary and pop culture “representation” growing up, as well as how he “goes to reading to find [himself]”

At about 19:15, Pete asks Carvell about his wide level of interest and knowledge and “muses,” and Carvell describes the “throughline” for his varied work as “people”

At about 22:50, Carvell and Pete discuss the definitive answer to the pronunciation of “gif” and highlight meaningful gifs of JR Smith and Andre Iguoadala

At about 25:15, Carvell responds to Pete’s question about writers and creators who inspire, including the film podcast You Must Remember This and Tricia Hersey’s We Will Rest

At about 28:20, Pete tiptoes into asking about Frankenstein’s monster

At about 29:05, Pete highlights stirring parts of Another Word for Love and shares gushing blurbs

At about 30:40, Pete asks about the structuring of the book and links that Catrvell envisioned and put into practice; Carvell explains his rationale for structuring around recovery

At about 33:05, Carvell connects Choose Your Own Adventure to the ways in which he tried to avoid “prescriptive” writing

At about 34:05, Carvell replies to Pete’s question about “killing [his] darlings”

At about 36:10, Carvell gives background on his June Jordan epigraph and talks about her revolutionary ways

At about 40:00, Carvell muses profoundly on the “contradiction(s)” of the United States

At about 42:05, Carvell responds to Pete’s asking about the “encroaching shadows” and loneliness that govern the book’s opening scene; Carvell also reflects on the “unreliability of memory”

At about 46:00, The two reflect on a pivotal early chapter about a literal and figurative “fog” and unorthodox lessons learned from the experience

At about 48:45, Carvell explains the importance of descriptions in the books about seeking intimacy with his mother and flipping tropes

At about 50:20, Carvell talks about writers and dishonesty and remembrance with regard to a possibly apocryphal story regarding kids forced to take care of themselves

At about 54:40, Carvell talks about nomenclature for sexual assault and reflections on ideas of culpability and masculinity

At about 58:20, Carvell reflects on healing through writing the book and his ethic in writing it

At about 1:01:05, Pete recounts important parts of Carvell’s childhood daydreaming

At about 1:02:20, Carvell points out a “theory of recovery” as seen in a metanarrative and ideas of “endless beautiful things in the world”

At about 1:03:30, Carvell muses on connections between hip hop and Shakespeare that especally

At about 1:05:20, The two discuss “The Finger” and racism shown by a white man and its larger implications

At about 1:08:40, Pete asks Carvell about links between “overwrit[ing] reality” and racist violence towards him

At about 1:10:00, The two reflect on change and the birth scene of his child; Carvell reflects on humility as illustrated in the scene

At about 1:12:45, Pete recounts important scenes that end Part I and govern Part II and asks Carvell about “re-union” and healing

At about 1:14:10, Pete gushes honestly over the book’s greatness, evocative nature, and resonant nature

At about 1:15:30, Carvell talks about the book’s end and its lack of an end

At about 1:16:20, Carvell shares contact info, social media info, and places to buy his book, including great Bay Area bookstores like Harold’s Books

Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. This week, his conversation with Episode 255 guest Chris Knapp is up on the website. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode will feature an exploration of the wonderful poetry of Khalil Gibran.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of Pete’s, a DIY operation, and he’d love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 266 with Lydia Kiesling. She is a novelist and culture writer whose first novel, The Golden State, was a 2018 National Book Foundation “5 under 35” honoree and a finalist for the VCU Cabell First Novelist Award. Her second novel, Mobility, a national bestseller, was named a best book of 2023 by Time and NPR, among others.

The episode airs on December 17.

Please go to ceasefiretoday.com, which features 10+ actions to help bring about Ceasefire in Gaza.

Wednesday Dec 04, 2024

Episode 264 with Maggie Sheffer, Author of the Award-Winning Collection, The Man in the Banana Trees, and Master of the Weird, The Offbeat, The Clever, The Poignant, and The Resonant

Wednesday Dec 04, 2024

Notes and Links to Maggie Sheffer’s Work

Marguerite (Maggie) Sheffer is a writer who lives in New Orleans. She is a Professor of Practice at Tulane University, where she teaches courses in design thinking and speculative fiction as tools for social change. Formerly, she taught English at the East Oakland School of the Arts, Castlemont High School, Life Academy, and GW Carver High School.

Her debut short story collection, The Man in the Banana Trees, was selected by judge Jamil Jan Kochai for the Iowa Short Fiction Award, was published in Fall 2024.

Maggie is a founding member of Third Lantern Lit, a local writing collective, and the Nautilus and Wildcat Writing Groups. She received her MFA from Randolph College. She was a 2023 Veasna So Scholar in Fiction at The Adroit Journal, and was selected as a top-twenty-five finalist for Glimmer Train's Short Story Award for New Writers. Her story “Tiger on My Roof” was a finalist for the 2024 Chautauqua Janus Prize, which awards emerging writers’ short fiction with “daring formal and aesthetic innovations that upset and reorder readers’ imaginations.”

Her position on semicolons (for) is noted in an Australian grammar textbook (pg. 16).

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Maggie's Website

From LitHub: "Marguerite Sheffer on Crafting a Collection of Century-Spanning Speculative Fiction"

"Marguerite Sheffer: These Stories Are an Intimate Map of What Scares Me" from Writer’s Digest

At about 2:05, Maggie shares a fun story about being published with George Bernard Shaw

At about 3:35, Maggie talks about her early reading life

At about 4:40, The two reflect on the evolving reputation of Star Wars and Star Wars fans

At about 6:05, Maggie shares how wine bottles led to writing an early and pivotal short story

At about 7:10, Maggie describes a gap in “actively writing” while teaching and interacting differently with writing

At about 8:10, Maggie lists texts and writers that helped her “reorder [her] brain”

At about 10:15, Pete and Maggie stan Tillie Olsen’s “I Stand Here ironing”

At about 12:05, Pete recounts a story about how he happened upon the great story by Shirley Jackson, “The Lottery”

At about 12:50, Maggie responds to Pete asking about what drew and draws her to science and speculative fiction

At about 13:50, Maggie highlights past guest Jamil Jan Kochai, Ken Liu, E. Lily Yu, Sofia Samatar, Clare Beams, Maurice Carlos Ruffin, the book The Safekeep, and others as contemporary writers who thrill and inspire

At about 15:05, Pete asks Maggie how teaching has inspired her writing

At about 16:45, Maggie cites Octavia Butler’s and Sandra Cisneros’ work and The Things They Carried and other texts that were favorites of her students

At about 18:10, The two discuss the epigraph and seeds for the short story collection

At about 19:50, The two discuss the collection’s first story and connection to Tillie Olsen’s idea of being “imprisoned in his own difference” and students being “othered”

At about 24:00, Maggie reflects on an important truth of fiction

At about 24:40, Maggie discusses famous unicorn tapestries that inspire a story of hers

At about 26:00, Pete compliments Maggie’s “delightfully weird” stories and “soft endings” and she responds to his questions about allegory/plot and “cool stories”

At about 27:40, Maggie talks about realizing the throughlines in her collections

At about 29:10, Maggie responds to Pete’s questions about writing in Covid times

At about 29:40, Pete cites examples of misogyny in the collection and asks about Joycleyn Bell and Maggie expands upon the story “The Observer’s Cage”-its genesis and connections to Jocelyn Bell Burnell

At about 32:20, Pete notes the use of animals as stand-ins for humanity and Maggie expands on deas of resistance as seen in the collection

At about 33:20, The two discuss ideas of redress and reclaiming the past through stories in the collection, especially “The Observer’s Cage”

At about 36:00, the two discuss a story with ghosts and ideas of “unfinished business” and capturing past natural greatness

At about 38:00, Maggie talks about sadly learning that an idea that she thought was original was not, as the two discuss a few stories about commercialism, dystopia, and climate change

At about 41:40, the two discuss middens, and themes of reclaiming what has been lost

At about 43:50, Pete notes an interesting story that deals with memory and AI, and Maggie talks about writing from a interesting-placed narrator

At about 45:40, Pete draws connections between a title character, Miriam Ackerman, and Truman Capote’s wonderful “A Christmas Memory”, while Maggie discusses the relationship between the title character and the narrator

At about 48:30, The two discuss violence and parental lack of control, especially in “Tiger on the Roof” and its memorable ending and creative plot

At about 51:45, Pete highlights the poignant and resonant closing line for the above story and connects the ending to Alice Elliott Dark’s classic, “In the Gloaming”

At about 53:20, The two discuss the collection’s title story and Maggie discuses inspiration from Carmen Maria Machado

At about 54:20, The two discuss the way the above story is “gutting” in its portrayal of the “banality of loss”

At about 57:30, Maggie reminds that the book is not just a “downer!”

At about 58:10, Maggie reads from “En Plein Aire”

At about 1:01:50, Maggie gives information on places to buy her book and social media and contact information

At about 1:02:40, Maggie shares information on some exciting new projects

You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitcher, Spotify, and on Amazon Music. Follow me on IG, where I’m @chillsatwillpodcast, or on Twitter, where I’m @chillsatwillpo1. You can watch this and other episodes on YouTube-watch and subscribe to The Chills at Will Podcast Channel. Please subscribe to both my YouTube Channel and my podcast while you’re checking out this episode.

I am very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

This month’s Patreon bonus episode features segments from conversations with Jeff Pearlman, Matt Bell, F. Douglas Brown, Jorge Lacera, Jean Guererro, Rachel Yoder, and more, as they reflect on chill-inducing writers who have inspired their own work.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of mine, a DIY operation, and I’d love for your help in promoting what I’m convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 265 with Carvell Wallace. He is a writer and podcaster who has contributed to GQ, New York Times Magazine, Pitchfork, MTV News, and Al Jazeera, among others. His debut memoir, Another Word For Love, is a 2024 Kirkus Finalist in Nonfiction, and one of Pete’s all-time favorite memoirs.

The episode airs on December 10.

Lastly, please go to ceasefiretoday.com, which features 10+ actions to help bring about Ceasefire in Gaza.

Monday Nov 25, 2024

Episode 263 with Fernanda Trias, Author of Mugre Rosa/Pink Slime, and Acute and Detail-Oriented World Builder and Creator of Thought-Provoking Fiction

Monday Nov 25, 2024

Notes and Links to Fernanda Trías’ Work

Fernanda Trías was born in Uruguay and is the award-winning author of three novels, two of which have been published in English. She is also the author of the short story collection No soñarás flores and the chapbook El regreso. A writer and instructor of creative writing, she holds an MFA in creative writing from New York University. She was awarded the National Uruguayan Literature Prize, The Critics’ Choice Award Bartolomé Hidalgo, and the Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz International Prize in Mexico for her novel Pink Slime. Both The Rooftop and Pink Slime were awarded the British PEN Translates Award, and Pink Slime was chosen by The New York Times in Spanish as one of the ten best books of 2020. Translation rights for her work have been sold in fifteen languages. She currently lives in Bogotá, Colombia, where she is a teacher at the creative writing MFA program of Instituto Caro y Cuervo. In 2017, she was selected as Writer-in-Residence at the Casa de Velázquez in Madrid, where she started writing her latest novel, Pink Slime.

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Fernanda Trias' Publisher Page for Simon and Schuster

Review of Pink Slime from Reactor Mag

At about 2:00, Pete and Fernanda discuss the book’s Spanish and English titles and different subtleties of each; Fernanda details how she decided to title the book as she dd

At about 3:20, Annie McDermott, Episode 91 and Mario Levrero shout outs!

At about 4:00, Fernanda discusses her reading life growing up, the ways in which better translations slowly came to Uruguay, and reading

At about 6:45, Fernanda talks about respect for Garcia Marquez, though not being a huge fan, and cites Juan Rulfo as “perfección”

At about 8:15, Pete expands on a Rulfo favorite of his, “No Oyes Ladrar los Perros,” and Fernanda expands on her love of Rulfo’s Pedro Paramo

At about 10:05, Fernanda talks about favorite contemporary authors, like Herta Muller and Olga Tokarczuk

At about 12:00, Pete shouts out Jennifer Croft, and Fernanda responds to Pete’s questions about why there is such a affinity for Eastern European writing in Latin América, and she specifies the Río Plata region as connected

At about 14:55, Fernanda describes her familial connections to Europe-particularly Italy and Spain

At about 17:15, Fernanda responds to Pete’s question about seeds for her writing life

At about 19:05, Fernanda references The Stranger and El Lugar by Levrero as chill-inducing books

At about 21:30, Pete is complimentary of Fernanda’s worldbuilding, and she expands on what she loves about it

At about 23:00, Pete and Fernanda discuss translation in her book, especially of colloquialisms like “ni fu ni fa”

At about 26:25, Fernanda responds to Pete’s question about climate change and other stimuli for Mugre Rosa/Pink Slime

At about 28:50, Pete mentions the book’s interesting dialogues that complement the action, and Fernanda expands on the evolving dialogues

At about 30:50, Fernanda talks about the book’s opening and the “first image” in her mind of a foggy port that creates an ambience for the book

At about 33:45, Pete shares laudatory blurbs for the book, especially about the book’s “envelop[ing]” world built by Fernanda

At about 34:25, Fernanda describes the book’s opening, including a pivotal scene involving a possible last fish

At about 37:05, Pete wonders about nostalgia, and Fernanda talks about her interest and lack of interest in certain ideas of what has been lost

At about 39:40, Fernanda discusses the relationship between the narrator and Max and its significance in the novel, especially in charting changes in the narrator as the book continues

At about 44:20, Pete points out a funny saying/joke from the book and Fernanda outlines her conversations with Heather Cleary in the translating of the joke

At about 46:05, The two discuss “surrendering and letting go” and connections to the novel and specifically, the narrator and Max’s relationship

At about 47:30, Pete lays out some basics on the relationships between the narrator and her mother, as well as her work situation with Mauro; Fernanda talks about how Covid’s social dynamics have mirrored so many parts of her novel and the ways in which the rich were able to move to safety

At about 51:45, the two discuss the differing relationships between the narrator’s two mother figure-Fernanda talks about the key questions of “What is a mother?”

At about 55:50, Fernanda and Pete discuss Mauro and his health condition and his memories of the time outlined in the book

At about 58:00, Pete and Fernanda reflect on ideas of community and if there is optimism/hope that comes with the book

At about 1:01:50, The two discuss ideas of systems and individuals’ culpability

At about 1:04:00, Fernanda gives social media info, and places to buy her book

You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitcher, Spotify, and on Amazon Music. Follow me on IG, where I’m @chillsatwillpodcast, or on Twitter, where I’m @chillsatwillpo1. You can watch this and other episodes on YouTube-watch and subscribe to The Chills at Will Podcast Channel. Please subscribe to both my YouTube Channel and my podcast while you’re checking out this episode.

I am very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. A big thanks to Rachel León and Michael Welch at Chicago Review.

I have added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.

This is a passion project of mine, a DIY operation, and I’d love for your help in promoting what I’m convinced is a unique and spirited look at an often-ignored art form.

Please tune in for Episode 264 with Maggie Sheffer. She is Professor of Practice at Tulane University, where she teaches courses in design thinking and speculative fiction as tools for social change. She is a founding member of Third Lantern Lit, a local writing collective, and her debut short story collection, The Man in the Banana Trees, was selected by judge Jamil Jan Kochai for the Iowa Short Fiction Award, and is published as of November 5.

The episode airs on December 3.

Lastly, please go to ceasefiretoday.com, which features 10+ actions to help bring about Ceasefire in Gaza.