Episode 189 with Andrés Reséndez, Researcher on The Spanish Conquest and Author of the Award-Winning and Rigorously-Researched The Other Slavery: The Uncovered Story of Indian Enslavement in America

Episode 189 Notes and Links to Andrés Reséndez’s Work

 

    On Episode 189 of The Chills at Will Podcast, Pete welcomes Andrés Reséndez, and the two discuss, among other things, his early trajectory towards becoming a writer, formative and transformative writers and his work with nonfiction and historical writing, the origins of his book on “the other slavery,” the interplay between disease and warfare and focred labor in decimating Native populations, and the machinations, greed, racism, and laws that guided the enslavement of the indigenous peoples of the Americas.

 

   Andrés Reséndez is a historian at the University of California, Davis. His specialties are Mexican history, early exploration and colonization of the Americas and the Pacific Ocean, and borderlands history.

   In 2017, Reséndez won the Bancroft Prize in American History and Diplomacy for The Other Slavery: The Uncovered Story of Indian Enslavement in America. Reséndez grew up in Mexico City, and he is currently a professor in the Department of History at the University of California, Davis.

 

 

Buy The Other Slavery: The Uncovered Story of Indian Enslavement in America

 

Andres Resendez's Wikipedia Page

 

NPR Review: "Horrors Pile Up Quietly In The Other Slavery"

 

At about 1:35, Andrés describes his early reading and writing and language experiences

 

At about 3:25, Andrés references formational writers 

 

At about 4:20, Andrés responds to Pete’s questions about his background with fiction and nonfiction, and he and Pete discuss the “amazing character” of Carvajal 

 

At about 6:05, Andrés lists contemporary “must-reads” like Robert Darnton and Simon Schama

 

At about 7:30, Pete asks Andrés about connections between the treatment of the indigenous in México and Andrés’ scholarship 

 

At about 10:00, Andrés cites Cabeza de la Vaca’s expedition-a subject of his earlier book-as one of the catalysts for The Other Slavery

 

At about 13:20, Andrés describes the significance of the book’s title 

 

At about 15:25, Pete and Andrés remark on the “amazing” phenomenon of Spain ruling an empire across the world and the arbitrary nature of the enforcement of the prohibition of indigenous slavery 

 

At about 18:35, Pete lays out a guiding hypothesis of Andrés’ in the book, regarding the central role Indian slavery had on the decimation of many groups 

 

At about 21:00, Andrés connects the cycle that brings together epidemics and slavery

 

At about 22:10, Pete wonders about the ways in which people have used Andrés’ research since the book’s publication 

 

At about 24:25, Andrés speaks about the use of the term “Indian”

 

At about 25:40, The two discuss the indigenous peoples of the Caribbean and their unique histories

 

At about 29:00, Andrés discusses the overwork and slavery and exploitation that decimated the peoples of the Caribbean 

 

At about 30:50, Andrés responds to Pete’s question about white supremacy and social caste and how these ideas permeated the laws and regulations and practices of the conquistadors

 

At about 36:00, Andrés answers Pete’s questions about whether or not he found any “heroes” in his research 

 

At about 37:15, Andrés explains how the US Civil War led to an uptick in the slavery of the indigenous

 

At about 39:30, Andrés gives background on how the US Congress played a role in ending indigenous slavery

 

At about 41:30, Pete and Andrés’ draw historical comparisons to today and 

 

At about 42:30, Pete compliments Andrés’ “humanizing” of the historical figures, and Andrés responds to Pete’s question about how he avoids “moralizing”

 

At about 44:20, Andrés shares an exciting future project regarding the Philippines and South Asia

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